[Enigmail] From Circumvention

Ian Mann ansus at neomailbox.ch
Sat Mar 7 03:14:29 CET 2015


Sent a message with attachment, but is too large. I was unaware of size limit, sorry for the problem.

I was saying Dark Mail addresses the issue of headers I read some time back. They have a PDF out now on their system.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20903929/dark-internet-mail-environment-december-2014.pdf



Ian




On 07/03/15 13:00, David wrote:
> On 3/6/2015 8:39 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
>> http://blog.linuxprogrammer.org/How%20to%20Sanitize%20Thunderbird%20and%20Enigmail.html
>>
>> This sanitizes some of the information.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/03/15 11:23, David wrote:
>>> On 3/6/2015 3:37 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>>>> On 03/06/15 15:16, David wrote:
>>>>> I am confused by this request. What difference does it make if
>>>>> 'someone else' knows whose public is on your public keyring?
>>>> If they know whose public keys are on your keyring, they know who you
>>>> talk to.  You may not wish them to know this.  Depending on who you
>>>> are and who you talk to, their knowing it could be very dangerous to you.
>>>
>>> You are aware that the *body* of the message is encrypted but the
>>> *header*, the email address you send to and the email address that you
>>> send from, and the complete path of all the email servers that the
>>> emails traveled though, is still open to the world? And that those
>>> emails are stored on all of those servers. Or at least they used to be
>>> stored.
>>>
>>> Which means that the whole world 'knows' just who you send emails to and
>>> receive emails from? You are using Thunderbird on a Linux OS.
>>>
>>> Select an email that you have sent to your friends, or one that they
>>> have sent to you, or anyone, and press Ctrl-U to open a new window of
>>> information. read carefully and closely.
>>>
>>> So if some admin of a key-server in some place 'knows' who you is on
>>> your Public-Keyring for email it is of little importance.
>>>
>>>
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> This is from your post which was a reply to me that you posted here. As
> you can see it is of little to no consequence if some one can see your
> Public Key Ring. I edited the body parts to shorten the post since that
> had nothing to do with my point here.
>
> As for 'someone' spying on you? If 'they' want to do that then they will
> do that.  :-)
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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> http://blog.linuxprogrammer.org/How%20to%20Sanitize%20Thunderbird%20and%20Enigmail.html
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> This sanitizes some of the information.
>
> Ian
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