[Enigmail] From Circumvention

Ian Mann ansus at neomailbox.ch
Sat Mar 7 03:23:04 CET 2015


There is a comprehensive video on DIME on You Tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzvXaxR6us

Ian




On 07/03/15 13:14, Ian Mann wrote:
> Sent a message with attachment, but is too large. I was unaware of size limit, sorry for the problem.
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> I was saying Dark Mail addresses the issue of headers I read some time back. They have a PDF out now on their system.
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> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20903929/dark-internet-mail-environment-december-2014.pdf
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> Ian
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> On 07/03/15 13:00, David wrote:
>> On 3/6/2015 8:39 PM, Ian Mann wrote:
>>> http://blog.linuxprogrammer.org/How%20to%20Sanitize%20Thunderbird%20and%20Enigmail.html
>>>
>>> This sanitizes some of the information.
>>>
>>> Ian
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>>> On 07/03/15 11:23, David wrote:
>>>> On 3/6/2015 3:37 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>>>>> On 03/06/15 15:16, David wrote:
>>>>>> I am confused by this request. What difference does it make if
>>>>>> 'someone else' knows whose public is on your public keyring?
>>>>> If they know whose public keys are on your keyring, they know who you
>>>>> talk to.  You may not wish them to know this.  Depending on who you
>>>>> are and who you talk to, their knowing it could be very dangerous to you.
>>>> You are aware that the *body* of the message is encrypted but the
>>>> *header*, the email address you send to and the email address that you
>>>> send from, and the complete path of all the email servers that the
>>>> emails traveled though, is still open to the world? And that those
>>>> emails are stored on all of those servers. Or at least they used to be
>>>> stored.
>>>>
>>>> Which means that the whole world 'knows' just who you send emails to and
>>>> receive emails from? You are using Thunderbird on a Linux OS.
>>>>
>>>> Select an email that you have sent to your friends, or one that they
>>>> have sent to you, or anyone, and press Ctrl-U to open a new window of
>>>> information. read carefully and closely.
>>>>
>>>> So if some admin of a key-server in some place 'knows' who you is on
>>>> your Public-Keyring for email it is of little importance.
>>>>
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>> This is from your post which was a reply to me that you posted here. As
>> you can see it is of little to no consequence if some one can see your
>> Public Key Ring. I edited the body parts to shorten the post since that
>> had nothing to do with my point here.
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>> As for 'someone' spying on you? If 'they' want to do that then they will
>> do that.  :-)
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>> _______________________________________________________________________
>> From - Fri Mar 06 20:46:13 2015
>> X-Account-Key: account3
>> X-UIDL: GmailId14bf1e33208c3a47
>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
>> X-Mozilla-Keys:
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>> Delivered-To: thetinsmith at gmail.com
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>>         Fri, 6 Mar 2015 17:39:34 -0800 (PST)
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>>         Fri, 06 Mar 2015 17:39:33 -0800 (PST)
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>> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 12:39:08 +1100
>> From: Ian Mann <ansus at neomailbox.ch>
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>> http://blog.linuxprogrammer.org/How%20to%20Sanitize%20Thunderbird%20and%20Enigmail.html
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>> This sanitizes some of the information.
>>
>> Ian
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