[Enigmail] spontaneous change of message status

Patrick Brunschwig patrick at enigmail.net
Sat Mar 14 15:22:42 CET 2015

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On 13.03.15 20:06, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 13/03/15 17:16, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> On 13.03.15 15:45, Philip Jackson wrote:
>>>>> For this spontaneous change to occur, one needs these
>>>>> factors to exist :
>>>>> 1. the 'To' field is in red type (with a red cursor) 2.
>>>>> the 'To' field must be completed and not left blank 3. the 
>>>>> spontaneous change in message status occurs around five or
>>>>> six minutes into the creation of the email - the body can
>>>>> be blank or partly filled.
>>>> Could it be triggered by auto-saving a draft message?
>>> Thanks Patrick - you're spot on !  After all the years of using
>>> it, I didn't even know Thunderbird did periodic backups.  I've
>>> never seen a backup directory in the file system nor in the
>>> profiles. However, it was doing a backup every 5 minutes.
>>> I was rather inexact in the original description above.  Only
>>> the different check box is ticked.  The change in the displayed
>>> message status and the icons on the enigmail toolbar doesn't
>>> happen until I click 'ok'.
>>>>> What I don't understand is why sometimes I get a red
>>>>> cursor/ text in the 'To' field and sometimes black.  I can
>>>>> provoke a red address field entry by making any address
>>>>> incomplete but my address for enigmail-users seems correct
>>>>> and complete.
>>>> That's Thunderbird behavior - nothing Enigmail influences
>>>> and nothing Enigmail could do to improve it.
>>> True.  But I still don't understand why sometimes Thunderbird 
>>> considers the To address broken.  The emails always arrive at 
>>> destination ok.  And it is not consistent for any given
>>> address.
>>>>> But I do consider that a spontaneous change to established 
>>>>> message conditions should not occur.
>>>> Agreed
>>> The change induced by Thunderbird seems to be one way only :
>>> sign -> encrypt. It doesn't reverse itself back to 'sign only'
>>> after a further backup period. But if you reset to 'sign only',
>>> after another backup period, it flips again to encrypt.
>> I'm trying to reproduce it, but so far didn't succeed. What are
>> your account settings and other rules when this happens?
> My account settings on OpenPGP Security : enable PGP support, Use
> specific PGP key, sign by default, PGP/MIME by default, sign non
> encrypted messages, sign encrypted messages, encrypt draft messages
> on saving.
> Nothing set under account settings Security.
> Enigmail preferences / Sending = Convenient encryption settings, 
> Key Selection : By Per-recipient, By email addresses
> For this to happen when writing an email :
> 1. Thunderbird preferences/Composition/General : check autosave
> (every 5 minutes), confirm when using keyboard shortcuts, check for
> missing attachments 2. 'To' field in email must be red.  This
> happens at random for any given email address but I can provoke it
> by breaking the address.  (I assumed the red indicated that
> Thunderbird considered the address broken ) 3.  The 'To' field must
> have an entry 4. The enigmail setting for that email must be 'sign
> only'
> Then just sit and wait for five minutes while checking the enigmail
> toolbar button from time to time.

I still cannot reproduce it. Could you send me a debug log file (menu
Enigmail > Debugging Options > View Log)?

- -Patrick

Version: GnuPG v2


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